Turcoo Rotary Blaster

[DBA Forum (B) - Peter Salanson]

Has anyone used the Turcoo Rotary Blaster please ?

[DBA Forum (B) - Charles Mclaren]

Rubber disc with tungsten tips...used on a drill???

Very effective for knocking off rust. C

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Post by DBA Forum (B) - Peter Salanson
Has anyone used the Turcoo Rotary Blaster please ?

[DBA Forum (B) - Chris Williamson]

Yes.



This time last year I was laying beneath my barge with one (a double) before repainting my hull.



Very impressed I was, but they do damage to themselves if you catch them on an edge. I got through 3 doing my boat. Not cheap, but cheaper and kinder to the vessel than sandblasting.






Chris
D. B. Orca




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Has anyone used the Turcoo Rotary Blaster please ?

[DBA Forum (B) - Edward & Pam Burrell]

And I have just finished stripping back the decks on Angelus. Painted
with chlorinated rubber this has worked well on clean flat steel. There
are several sections of checker or fish plate and wear allowed water to
get in and rust to form. Rubber paint cannot be removed with a wire
brush and angle grinder because it simply melts. We got through three
of the triple discs but the teeth get knocked out. A needle gun was
then hired to deal with the nobbly bits and difficult corners, under the
winch etc. Cost of tools about £450 + labour. A lot less than the
hassle of going to a boatyard. Decks cleaned down to bare steel, two
part epoxy now applied and looking good.
An excellent tool on smooth surfaces.

Edward.

Post by DBA Forum (B) - Chris Williamson
Yes.
This time last year I was laying beneath my barge with one (a double) before repainting my hull.
Very impressed I was, but they do damage to themselves if you catch them on an edge. I got through 3 doing my boat. Not cheap, but cheaper and kinder to the vessel than sandblasting.
Chris
D. B. Orca
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Has anyone used the Turcoo Rotary Blaster please ?

[DBA Forum (B) - Janice Wallace]

Chris ,

" kinder to the vessel than sandblasting"

As one about to start I would be interested to know why you think that sandblasting would be worse that knocking lumps off with carbide ?

Derek

[DBA Forum (B) - Chris Williamson]

On a riveted boat, sandblasting has a reputation of starting off leaky rivets. With the tool, you have the ability to offer up a lighter touch, around rivets.






Chris
D. B. Orca




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Chris ,



' kinder to the vessel than sandblasting'



As one about to start I would be interested to know why you think that sandblasting would be worse that knocking lumps off with carbide ?



Derek

[DBA Forum (B) - David Chamberlain]

Good morning,
Have Googled Turcoo Rotary Blaster no luck? where can i get some information?

thanks David
CHRISTINA

[DBA Forum (B) - Peter Salanson]

Try turcoo-rotating-blaster.co.uk
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Good morning,
Have Googled Turcoo Rotary Blaster no luck? where can i get some information?

thanks David
CHRISTINA

[DBA Forum (B) - David Chamberlain]

Hi Peter,
Obviously never destined to own one, that web address does not respond? any ideas

Regards David

[DBA Forum (B) - Peter Salanson]

Hi David,
Are you using (as I think you should) 'rotating',as opposed to rotary ??
You'll get there.
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Obviously never destined to own one, that web address does not respond? any ideas

Regards David

[DBA Forum (B) - David Chamberlain]

Hi Peter,
Site must have been down, have found it now, many thanks.
Regards David

[DBA Forum (B) - David Beaumont]

There is some discussion of these overpriced items in the archives, search for 'perago' which is almost identical. Remember to remove the annoying default search of 'a year ago'.

I suspect the much cheaper and traditional twisted wire brush on an angle grinder is a lot better, not just a lot cheaper. Also a grinder is much easier to handle for this sort of job than a drill. Alternatively you can use a twisted wire cup attachment.

The drawback with a grinder is the fixed speed, I get round this by plugging it into a variable speed controller (type "190914663110" into ebay) , that way you can remove rubber paint without melting it and also avoid sparks damaging surrounding paintwork or items.

David

[DBA Forum (B) - Peter Salanson]

Thanks David,

Peter
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There is some discussion of these overpriced items in the archives, search for 'perago' which is almost identical. Remember to remove the annoying default search of 'a year ago'.

I suspect the much cheaper and traditional twisted wire brush on an angle grinder is a lot better, not just a lot cheaper. Also a grinder is much easier to handle for this sort of job than a drill. Alternatively you can use a twisted wire cup attachment.

The drawback with a grinder is the fixed speed, I get round this by plugging it into a variable speed controller (type "190914663110" into ebay) , that way you can remove rubber paint without melting it and also avoid sparks damaging surrounding paintwork or items.

David

[DBA Forum (B) - Charles Mclaren]

But the really good thing about the wire brush is how well it polishes the rust, without necessarily knocking off the deep stuff in the pits....!!!!

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Post by DBA Forum (B) - David Beaumont
There is some discussion of these overpriced items in the archives, search for 'perago' which is almost identical. Remember to remove the annoying default search of 'a year ago'.
I suspect the much cheaper and traditional twisted wire brush on an angle grinder is a lot better, not just a lot cheaper. Also a grinder is much easier to handle for this sort of job than a drill. Alternatively you can use a twisted wire cup attachment.
The drawback with a grinder is the fixed speed, I get round this by plugging it into a variable speed controller (type "190914663110" into ebay) , that way you can remove rubber paint without melting it and also avoid sparks damaging surrounding paintwork or items.
David

[DBA Forum (B) - David Beaumont]

If you think about it nothing rotating i.e. going sideways to a pit is going to clean out the pit. That applies to a tercoo tip as much as a wire end. More so in fact as the tip is thicker than a wire end. The only way to clean a pit is to blast into it with grit or UHP water, or apply a chemical rust [i]remover[/i] (which seem hard to get now). Needle guns will just punch the rust in. However a twisted wire brush on a grinder will easily remove most rust to allow you to apply a converter or a surface tolerant zinc rich epoxy. I've found power wire brushing deep rust, then Vactan followed up by a household zinc based anti rust primer works very well, 10 years or more. Jotamastic 90 epoxy looks even better.

David

[DBA Forum (B) - David Beaumont]

I should add, with a grinder as with a pressure washer always go at least twice over the surface from opposite angles. Ideally several times from more than 2 angles even. This usually involves inverting the grinder.

David

[DBA Forum (B) - Pete. Milne]

[quote="David Beaumont" post=56953.
. chemical rust [i]remover[/i] (which seem hard to get now).
[/quote]
Epiphanes rust remover from any good Dutch chandler. Kurust in the UK from Halfords.

Peto

[DBA Forum (B) - Charles Mclaren]

Ah, but it's the percussive action of the turco that knocks off the rust...like a needle gun. C

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Post by DBA Forum (B) - David Beaumont
If you think about it nothing rotating i.e. going sideways to a pit is going to clean out the pit. That applies to a tercoo tip as much as a wire end. More so in fact as the tip is thicker than a wire end. The only way to clean a pit is to blast into it with grit or UHP water, or apply a chemical rust [i]remover[/i] (which seem hard to get now). Needle guns will just punch the rust in. However a twisted wire brush on a grinder will easily remove most rust to allow you to apply a converter or a surface tolerant zinc rich epoxy. I've found power wire brushing deep rust, then Vactan followed up by a household zinc based anti rust primer works very well, 10 years or more. Jotamastic 90 epoxy looks even better.
David

[DBA Forum (B) - David Beaumont]

[quote="Pete. Milne" post=56957]
Epiphanes rust remover from any good Dutch chandler. Kurust in the UK from Halfords.

Peto[/quote]

I think those are rust [i]converters[/i] aren't they? Like Vactan. Very good but doesn't clean back to bare steel. Halfords do sell a "rust [i]remover[/i] gel" made by hammerite though - "brings back to bare metal" . Jenolite red naval jelly used to be the stuff but beware the brand has been hijacked to a rust converter. The true rust removers work best as a dip though gels are available. I recall it takes a lot of gel and time to get the rust out.


[quote="Charles Mclaren" post=56958]Ah, but it's the percussive action of the turco that knocks off the rust...like a needle gun. C[/quote]

Marketing is a wonderful thing.

David

[DBA Forum (B) - Pete. Milne]

[quote="David Beaumont" post=56959]
[quote="Pete. Milne" post=56957]
Epiphanes rust remover from any good Dutch chandler. Kurust in the UK from Halfords.
[/quote]
I think those are rust [i]converters[/i] aren't they? Like Vactan. Very good but doesn't clean back to bare steel. Halfords do sell a "rust [i]remover[/i] gel" made by hammerite though - "brings back to bare metal" .
[/quote]
Yes, they are 'converters', though arguably when the rust is converted, it is 'removed'; not back to bare metal, agreed, just to a stable base for painting. They are good for treating the last remains, e.g. in pits after removing all loose rust. They also give some rust protection: I painted a plain unrusted steel bar with Kurust and left it in the open for a winter - no rust!
I think the gel in Halfords is just Kurust in a different form, whatever it says.

Pete

[DBA Forum (B) - David Beaumont]

I happened to be in Halford's today, the Kurust is a converter, almost identical to Vactan. Their rust remover gel and dip is definitely a remover though.

Confusingly they all come in similar bottles branded by Hammerite. In fact I can recommend the removal dip - it is excellent if you can fit the rusted item into a bucket or smaller and leave it submerged overnight. It will come out as bare metal, not quite shiny steel but no rust or converted rust, a sort of grey matt bare metal (which will quickly flash rust again). Beware the item may come out significantly smaller and lighter than when it went in.

The gel though is pretty useless as I recall, unlike the old pink jenolite/naval jelly which seems to have been removed and replaced with a poor substitute converter.

David