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Delivery
DBA Forum (B) - Ian Moon
2014-07-21 08:05:40 UTC
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Hi all, a very brief question. So, if you were to buy a 60' x 10'6" boat on the Avon in Somerset how would you plan on getting it to say a new mooring on the Crouch Estuary in Essex? A daunting sea trip? By Road? Or is there a wide beam river/canal route available? Thanks. Ian.
DBA Forum (B) - Edward & Pam Burrell
2014-07-21 13:44:02 UTC
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Ian,

I have recently brought a 19m x 3.2m small dutch barge on the Kennet &
Avon from Newbury up to the Thames.
It came up from Bath. What does your barge have in the way of a
wheelhouse - is it dismountable?

regards
Edward.
Post by DBA Forum (B) - Ian Moon
Hi all, a very brief question. So, if you were to buy a 60' x 10'6" boat on the Avon in Somerset how would you plan on getting it to say a new mooring on the Crouch Estuary in Essex? A daunting sea trip? By Road? Or is there a wide beam river/canal route available? Thanks. Ian.
DBA Forum (B) - Ian Moon
2014-07-23 07:20:00 UTC
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Sorry about the delay in replying Edward, I was awaiting a response from the vendor. It does not seem that the wheelhouse is collapsible, but there again it only has an air draft of 8ft. (from the top of the spotlight)

He also advised me that the Barge was delivered to Saltford via the Kennet and Avon from London, so I'm guessing it'll go back again?

It's not like buying a car is it? This boat buying lark!!! :)
DBA Forum (B) - James Smith
2014-07-23 09:06:02 UTC
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Ian, hi,

I'm no expert but as I understand it there's no problem hauling a barge that
size by road. The problem would have been getting under motorway bridges,
but it sounds like that won't be an issue.

Regards,

James

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Sorry about the delay in replying Edward, I was awaiting a response from the
vendor. It does not seem that the wheelhouse is collapsible, but there again
it only has an air draft of 8ft. (from the top of the spotlight)

He also advised me that the Barge was delivered to Saltford via the Kennet
and Avon from London, so I'm guessing it'll go back again?

It's not like buying a car is it? This boat buying lark!!! :)
DBA Forum (B) - Ian Moon
2014-07-24 07:34:51 UTC
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Thanks James

I think that road transportation will be another option for us to seriously consider. I don't think that taking a new boat from the Severn Estuary to the Thames Estuary via the channel is necessarily the best way to find out that she has a few 'issues'!

Many thanks
Ian
DBA Forum (B) - Andy Soper
2014-07-24 08:03:30 UTC
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Hello Ian,

If it will go on a lorry - put it on a lorry! More expensive in initial cash but think about the time saved and the removed risk of becoming a casualty at sea. Your insurance company will be much happier too!

Remember Timothy Spall always had an escort boat (for the camera crew), an RNLI lifeboat very nearby dying to rescue him, a helicopter overhead and he was being paid to wait for the right weather conditions, when he rounded Lands End. The Severn estuary is a difficult piece of water and you may need to engage a pilot anyway.
DBA Forum (B) - Ian Moon
2014-07-28 06:52:22 UTC
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Thanks Andy, that's were we were heading with our thinking.

Funnily enough Hilary and I discussed the Timothy Spall trip and the appropriate 'measures' that the TV company would have taken. If this is the boat for us then I think it'll be hitching a ride to Essex!

Thanks.
DBA Forum (B) - Colin Stone
2014-07-28 07:24:01 UTC
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the Timothy Spall trip....
Truly appalling, cringeworthy programme giving boaters a terrible reputation with his unprofessionalism - seized anchor winch and not knowing how to use it.

If he has a qualification, I'd be very surprised.

Colin Stone
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DBA Forum (B) - Janice Wallace
2014-07-28 12:39:06 UTC
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Thread drift I know but TS was a entertainment tv series for the masses !!
A specific programme for canal boat owners where everything was perfect would have tiny viewing figures !
Human nature.
DBA Forum (B) - Paul Hayes
2014-07-28 15:28:29 UTC
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Hi Ian

Having read all of the reply's to your post, and reasonably experienced in navigating at sea, at the same time recognising the limits of inland waterways boat on the open sea I will make these observations.

1. Generally the Bristol Channel is not a place for the inexperienced or faint hearted in a small boat, but having said that we all have to start somewhere.

2. On Saturday 26th July I was off the south Wales coast in the Bristol Channel, the conditions were the perfect millpond, the wind strength was Zero, the wave height was zero, you could have taken a rowing boat from Porthcawl to Minehead with no problem.

The point being is this, if you want to wait (probably for a long time) for the correct conditions, and have enough experience and / or a pilot to take you up the Somerset coast and into the Avon, then in a well found small vessel it is possible to undertake the journey by water.

Certainly if you can get up to Bristol you have two choices, either enter the Kennet and Avon Canal and proceed by water, or there is a boat hoist there that will lift you onto a lorry at a cost probably much less than using a mobile crane anywhere else. I could probably dig out the name of a haulier or two who could do the job.

There may be a boat hoist big enough in either Swansea or Penarth marina, I'm not sure, but it might be worth checking out.

Hope this helps.

Paul Hayes
DBA Forum (B) - Ian Moon
2014-07-28 16:01:11 UTC
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Thanks Paul

I can assure you, I had no intention of attempting a channel run, I was planning on hiring a skipper to do that if it turned out to be the advised option. I think we'll be giving the boat a piggy back to her new home if she turns out to be the one we go for. It would seem more problematic to get a boat from England to our mooring in Essex than one from the continent!!

If we go for this boat I shall be enquiring about places to haul out and may need advice on good yards in the area.

Thanks
Ian

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